aka Esme

  • I live in Uranus
  • I was born on March 3
  • My occupation is Professional Klingon
  • I am Female


Hi, welcome to God of War Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the God of War page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- KratosGodofWar (Talk) 21:23, 16 March 2012

RE: New Ascension Page

Thank you very much, Shmeagle. You can't delete pages yourself, but to put them up for deletion, just add { delete } to the top of the page, without the spacing in between the brackets. KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) 13:32, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Adding and Then Removing Categories Yourself

So... You add the Boss category, which we no longer use, to a page, and then come back to remove it, as if someone else had made that mistake? Is this your way of getting your edit counter up? Please don't, or you'll receive warnings and/or bans. KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) 06:07, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

I can't remember adding a boss category to any pages, if I did then I'm sorry and it won't happen again. I didn't even know that there was a boss category until I deleted it off whatever page that I may or may not have added it on to.I did however add the God of War origins collection onto a lot of pages, you could have mistaken it for that. -Shmeagle- Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 14:49, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

hi! (i'm doing this so that i can have my badge)

RE: Extra Categories

I had no idea. I don't recall such an issue. I always got one extra count per category added. Perhaps it's a glitch in the wikia domain that they're working on, I don't know. Thanks for telling though :) KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) (talk) 18:03, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Saga New Category

Shmeagle, I'm not overly fond of all the categories that have been created over the past months to accomodate their respective rebundled releases (Collection, Origins Collection, Saga, etc...) since they all contain almost the exact same amount of pages (new releases of existing games don't make for new releases), but I've tried deleting them before, and people just keep on using them. Quite frankly, I don't care about those categories any more. I'll only delete a new category if it's very clearly the most useless thing ever. Since all those other categories already exist, it would be unfair to remove this one. Feel free to add whatever page you deem a part of it. Regards, KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) (talk) 15:46, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

adding where the last spartan died is not necessary

kratos died twice before god of war III, that doesn't mean we should add where he died. FlightlessBird (talk) 08:56, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


I believe that it is necessary to add the place where the Last Spartan died as that is where he actually died. I think I explained the situation on his talk page well enough, if he didn't die then no one died in the Island of Creation and that isn't true. I'm not sure why people believe the Last Spartan's fate is different to any of the other boss's really. Kratos killed him and that's why the place where he dies is mentioned. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 10:08, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


well at least we should try to tune it a little bit. "died in" is a little confusing to people who are visiting for information. FlightlessBird (talk) 10:32, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


I think the coding of the infobox will only allow "Died in" so unfortunately the people visiting will have to stay confused unless there is a way to change that. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 10:36, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


why not create a whole new infobox? and we don't add the "died in" code thing. FlightlessBird (talk) 10:58, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


The coding for the infobox remains the same for every article on this wiki (I think), you'd probably have to either speak to an admin or get in touch with the wiki database (I'm pretty sure that you can ask a question to them somehow). I'm no good at coding but if you are then you could request a new infobox code. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 11:11, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

RE: White Info Boxes

Both fixed now :) KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) (talk) 10:03, September 22, 2012 (UTC)

/* New Wiki Layout */ RE:

The option to 'like' pages is still there. Use the 'Share' button in the top right hand corner. KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) (talk) 14:42, October 15, 2012 (UTC)

Mythological Heroes Pack

I've seen you created Achilles' page, you must (obviously) be aware about the Mythological Heroes Multiplayer Pack, thoughts about it already? You're doing an amazing job, keep doing it! (: Alexdonegan 00:54, 19 October 2012

Thank you, but you too have also created an informative Odysseus page and probably know more about the pack than me (I got the idea for the Achilles and Orion page from your Odysseus page). At the moment I'm liking the look of the pack and I'll probably preorder the collector's edition, I think I like the Orion costume the best (just for the helmet really) but the Perseus costume is pretty nice as well. What are your thoughts? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:05, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

I think they did a awesome job, although, in my opinion, Achilles' armor could be more complete, he looks too vulnerable, almost with no protection, like Orion (But as you said, Orion's helmet is so badass!), and Odysseus' armor is just awesome. If I had a PS3 i'd have pre-ordered it on the day it was released, but, well, I am not that fortunate. Alexdonegan 13:32, 19 October 2012

Oh no, that's a shame. I hope that you get lucky in some fortunate turn of events and manage to get your hands on a PS3 somehow. You never know, you could win some kind of competition or find one that's incredibly cheap, I hope you do as it'd be a shame for you to miss out on God of War: Ascension. You're right about Achilles, he doesn't have much armour on but in the God of War universe, armour counts for nearly nothing, it just matters how much muscle a character has as muscular characters are somehow sorted to deflect swords with their pecs. Saying that, the Santa Monica team has done a great job, especially with Odysseus as his armour is amazing. I think it'd be pretty cool if they released a mythological monsters pack where it gave you monster armour. Just out of interest, what God of War games have you played? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:49, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I have already beaten Chains of Olympus (All dificulties), Ghost of Sparta (I have to beat VH mode, but the Geryons keep fucking me), God of War II (I'll start Titan mode soon, I want to make some progress on the Challenge of the Titans now), and I started beating GoW I, but my game crashes every time after getting Aphodite's Necklace, so pissed off :( and I have seen the full GoW III Walkthrough at least 5 times (I know that it is not beating or even playing the game, but I feel like playing...It's the closer I can get without a PS3) Alexdonegan 14:04, October 19 2012

You must be very good at playing God of War if you can defete all difficulties, I'm sure you'll eventually be able to beat the Geryons (although they are a pain in the arse to defeat, especially on the harder difficulties). And the glitches in the first two games can get extremely annoying, I managed to get to Persues on Titan mode but I died each time I grabbed hold of the lever that you had to twist to proceed. And if you've seen the walkthrough of God of War III then that's just as good as playing it (knowledge wise) as you'll get all of the info from the games. Completely random but who/what was your favourite boss throughout the series? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:28, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

It can sound too cliche, but I loved defeating Zeus on GoW II, I just love to reflect his thunderbolts with the Golden Fleece and send them right at his face, I love using the Golden Fleece in all ocasions, but specially on Zeus and the gorgons, I don't know why...And thanks, but I don't think I am a good God of War player, I consider myself as an average player, I have a "tough" gaming style (I do not like using magics, just in case of great amounts of enemies at the same time, the only magics that I really love using are Poseidon's Rage and Atlas Quake, that is an really underrated magic, seems like everybody avoid it) Alexdonegan 14:39, October 19 2012

I think Zeus was a great boss in God of War II, it was the only time that he actually seemed powerful for a god (in God of War III he was very easy and all of his attacks bar one were weak). I think the Golden Fleece is probably the best addition to the God of War saga and it's become one of Kratos' trademark items as it looks pretty damn awesome. And I think you must be at least a little bit above average to beat most of the series on hard/very hard mode as I hear people say that they're one of the best players if they beat God of War on plain hard mode. Also, the two panic button magics (PR and AQ) are excellent but you're right about everybody ignoring them, I've never been sure why everybody flocks to use Cronos' Rage as it's not really that good. Personally, I think magic is a great thing to use but I usually end up using it all up before a really hard part and then screwing myself over. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:01, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

And like, I used Rage of the Titans just 4 mandatory times (Opening the Typhon's door, freeing Pegasus, escaping the grasp of the Kraken and when Zeus get the Blade of Olympus by the second time on the final boss battle). Allow me to say that is a pleasure to have such a great and informative talk with someone like you, the world should have more people playing God of War and reading about the Greek Mithology, but not just reading it, living it! :) Alexdonegan, 15:18, October 19 2012

Thank you, and it is certainly nice having a convocation with someone like you. People nowadays seem to have forgotten about Greek mythology or moulded it into a kid's thing which is a shame as it's, in my opinion, the best type of mythology and certainly isn't for nine-year-olds (no offence to people who read Percy Jackson, I just think they made everything too cutesy). God of War is probably the best adaptation of Greek mythology, although no overly accurate, it introduces people to Greek mythology in a way that they can totally get behind. There's not enough decent hack and slash games at the moment and certainly only one decent game about Greek mythology. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:49, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

I never watched Percy Jackson, but I have seen Disney's Hercules, and it's the same thing you said: Too cute. Hercules was not that way, they totally fucked up the original history. A cool movie when I was 9 (It even have Rip Torn as Zeus), but speaking like someone that know the true history, it not amuses me... Alexdonegan, 15:54, October 19 2012

Yeah, Disney's Hercules was a lot like that but if they stuck to the original story I doubt that it'd be a kids film anymore. Percy Jackson stuck to the original history to a point but made it so many of the monsters and gods were jokes; I'll give a brief synopsis: the gods still exist but they are a secret to mortals and desguise themselves with mist. The gods still sleep around and end up having loads of demigods and it's the story of the demigods and how they 'kill' the monsters. That sounds good on paper and if it had a violent, God of War, type tone it would be great, but unfortunately there is no blood, the Titans and monsters are idiots, and the demigods are either overly powered or incredibly lucky. There's a whole host of problems that could (nearly) all be solved if it was darker. That gives me an idea, Santa Monica could make a game where the monsters/gods/Titans are like they are in the God of War series but the player gets to create their own demigod and from there you can do whatever you want (become a god or Titan, kill every named monster, save a city, destroy the world amd recreate it, the possibilities are endless). What do you think? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:14, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

You're thinking about like doing like a RPG game + Spore + God of War? I can't see how it could go wrong. It would consumes hours and hours of my life if it could get to reality, like the multiplayer champain extended to a whole new level, with the player making his own history. Changing the subject, sometimes I imagine how God of War III would be if David Jaffe did not drop from Sony...He wanted Kratos to kill Zeus at the beginning of the game and then fighting egyptian/norse entities, I think it would be so awesome! Alexdonegan, 16:27, 19 October 2012

I think it would have been great! Zeus would have been better if he was the first boss as it got a bit stupid when the last boss of the last two games were the same people. And to have a mix of Egyptian, Norse, and Greek gods/monsters would have been amazing, if you've read the review on my actual page then you'll see that God of War III was my least favourite of the games as the story was lacking and the last boss was poor. Ra and Odin could've teamed up for the last boss and that would have been loads better than a weak Zeus. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:42, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I did read all your reviews, they were awesome! But you're right, what God of War III gained in graphics, it lost on storyline...Alexdonegan, 16:47, 19 October 2012

Thank you, they took a while to write so I'm glad you enjoyed them. God of War III would've been perfect if not for its story... Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:59, October 19, 2012 (UTC) Now all we can do is wait for Ascension and (perhaps) wait for a "God of War IV" (To tell the truth, I want Ascension to be the last game ever, I'm too afraid that a sequel - that probably will be made to give more money to Sony - will fuck up the whole saga), or even a "God of War: The Origin", that will make us lead Kratos through the Spartan kindergarten. Alexdonegan, 17:03, 19 October 2012

I'm with you with wanting Ascension to be the last God of War game ever, it will destroy the series otherwise. A sequel will have to be pulled out of Sony's arse as Kratos is dead and bringing him back will be a money grabbing scheme that will kill off any credibility that the series has after Ascension. Saying that, Ascension does look like it's going to be an amazing game graphic and gameplay wise but I think the story will have to be weak. And you're right about the Origin game, that's all of Kratos' past we have left after Ascension unless there's going to be a God of War: Sperm race... I wouldn't put it past Sony. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 20:21, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Instead of making more sequels/prequels/interquels, Sony could re-do God of War I and II (Talking just about the graphics), or is this asking too much? But I think is more probable that Sony will release a entire game that is situated between God of War II and III (with 10 minutes long, it would be "God of War: The Lunch with The Titans Before Destroying Olympus") Alexdonegan, 17:33, 19 October 2012

Haha, they'd probably do that as they'd know it would sell. And it'd be good to re-do the first two games and add more to them, I'd buy it and many others would as well. Sony'll probably do something stupid like make an entire series about one of the really minor characters like Euryale. That game would consist of eating and sleeping I'd guess. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 20:43, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

And eventually turning people to stone. Alexdonegan, 17:52, 19 October 2012

She probably wouldn't even do that until Sony had made three games about her backstory and then created some unusual and slightly unbelievable story about a lost sibling. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:27, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

That's SO Sony...Shmeagle, when did you begin playing God of War? Alexdonegan, 17:52, 19 October 2012

Hmmm, I think it was about 2008. I remember that I was watching a video on YouTube about Greek mythology and I came across a related vide a called 'All Titans VS Zeus' it had a load of views so I thought that it may be another informative video on the first Great War. I watched it and soon realised that it was from a video game but I didn't bother to check out which one it was. A few months later, I had a look at a video called 'God of War Hydra', I knew that the hydra was from Greek mythology so I watched the video. The game looked great so I did a bit of research, saved up some money, and bought a PS2 and God of War. How did you find it, Alexdonegan? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:28, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Well, In february (Of 2012) I bought a PSP from my band's drummer, and it came with God of War: Chains of Olympus, and I loved it, since I'm a Greek Mythology lover (I study it since I was 8, and I'm 18 now). I did beat it and then I downloaded Ghost of Sparta, and in june (I guess) I got a broken PS2 from my friend, fixed it and it's mine since (The PSP and the PS2 are my first videogames, I never possessed one, so, I got my first videogame with 17 years LOL), and got God of War I and II. Alexdonegan, 20:33, 19 October 2012

Wow, you managed to fix a PS2? You must be pretty technical if you can do that. I don't know why but I kind of regret playing God of War as my first game as all other games are awful in comparison. For example, I borrowed Dante's Inferno from a friend as I was told that it was just as good as God of War, if not better. I had high hopes for the game but it ended up being awful and certainly a lot worse than even the worst level in the worst God of War game. I was then told about Darksiders II and how it was meant to be the greatest game ever (you may have seen all the adverts for it) so I saved up for a long time to get it and had to do quite a few extra jobs to make up for how much it cost, it ended up being boring and repetitive. I was in two minds to whether these games were actually bad or if God of War had set my standards too high. Out of all the games I have played, I have only enjoyed seven and they are, the entire God of War series, Skyrim, and (when I was little) Pokémon Yellow. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:09, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I never was a guy that plays videogames all the time (Because I pretty much never got any interest in them before discovering God of War) but I loved all the saga and some other games like Guitar Hero series, FIFA Street 2, and Marvel games, and until today I do not play well. God of War is the best Greek Mythology adaption I've ever seen, like, 300 and Troy are good, but seems that suddenly, all the good guys turn to be egocentrical assholes (Achilles, Leonidas...), but it's normal on movies nowadays, and GoW is completely out of the standards. It has flaws in the game to the other, but it's just say that it's non-canon and everything turns out good (hehe), but is a thing that really deserves attention and some time of my life. Alexdonegan The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 17:06, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I never really bothered with other video games after Crash Bandicoot on the PS1 as I got my arse kicked countless times. And you're right about the protagonists of the other games (and movies) being incredibly egotistical, it's beginning to get rather annoying when I know exactly what to expect from the good guys of (nearly) all games. God of War kind of changes that, but you're right about the flaws however I don't think there's a perfect game in existence. I think that God of War is the best at what it does (hack and slash, big bosses, angry characters ect...) and it blows other films and games out of the water when they're compared to it. God of War is, in my opinion, the best modern media about Greek mythology. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:24, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I know a lot of people that started to like the Greek Mythology after playing/discovering God of War, after that I had a lot more subject to talk to people...Quite a long conversation we had! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:05, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, we have had a long convocation, perhaps the longest on the Wiki (I know it sounds weird but I've had a look at some of the big editor's talk pages in the past and convocations seem to only go on for three messages). God of War is an interesting convocation starter as there's so much to talk about and Greek mythology is very deep and complex. I have to say that I'm looking forward to creating some new pages for Ascension, I'm not sure why but I love creating new pages and getting the sense of achievement of contributing to the Wiki more than just editing. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:35, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure that will be an explosion of new pages created by you after beating Ascension! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:43, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, I'll try my best. We could try to have a race as you'll be able to have a look on a walkthrough and I take a while to beat any God of War game and I'm trying this one first on hard so I'll probably screw myself over. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 20:16, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

I will only have any chance to win if someone beat Ascension and record it in like, 3 days hahaha Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 21:31, October 21, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, people who live in America or mainland Europe will get the game quite a few days before me and I'm guessing that at least one of them will make a recorded video so you might have a chance. The only page that I'm desperate to make, providing it's in Ascension, is the Stheno page so I might have to have a snoop around the Internet when Ascension comes out to see if she's in the game. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 15:42, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

I have a lot of expectaions on the other Furies and their appearance, as well on Stheno, but I already know that it is going to be a not-that-long game, as there is not a lot to kill, and everything must be preserved to the sequels, but I hope is not going to be short as Chains of Olympus. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:01, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

This is what worries me as well... They said that it should be about as long as the first one or slightly shorter. When Ascension was fist announced I was hoping that it'd be around the same length as the seconed game but alas that never happened. The furies and Charybdis are certainly bosses and four was the same number of bosses as the first game (including Medusa) but saying that a lot of the first game was puzzles and so there wasn't much room for bosses. There's a load of evidence saying that Stheno will be in the game but the evidence against that is stacking up with each new boss released. And I really hope they only make one sequel if they really have to make any sequels at all, considering this is Sony we're talking about, they'll probably release decent bosses as part of a DLC for multiplayer that has to be payed for. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:11, October 22, 2012 (UTC)

I think you'd like to give a look to this: Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 02:32, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, it was certainly very interesting although the Achilles in that video differs greatly from the one that's in the Mythological Heroes Pack, perhaps it was an early version or just a random soldier called Achilles. I like the take down of Polythemus but I think it may get a tiny bit monotonous after the hundreth time of doing it. Thinking about it, the reason for the short single player is probably because they've added a multiplayer mode and not because there wasn't enough ideas... Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 06:31, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized it after sending the link, I am sure that is a warrior guided by Hades, and I even wrote a comment stating that is not Achilles on the video. But at least it shows that the graphics are incredible. I think that the big deal of the multiplayer is not defeating Polyphemus, it is to kill all the other guys that are playing too hahaha Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 14:55, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

The graphics certainly look amazing and that's half the game now. And you're right about Polyphemus, players will probably grow tired of killing him every time they play Favour of the Gods so they'll stick to massacring each other instead. Have you seen the new Zeus trailer? It looks very epic, I'll try to find a link... Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 15:05, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

That is really awesome, I bet that the Hades' trailer will be good too! I can't wait to see Odysseus (and Kratos) in action! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 15:34, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

I'm also looking forward to the Hades trailer, he's the coolest looking Olympian (I know he's not a real Olympian but he's nearly there) and has the biggest reason to have enemies among his fellow gods. I hope they make different trailers (or at least videos of each one separately) for the Heros of the Mythological Heroes Pack, Odysseus and Orion look the best to me and it'll be pretty awesome to see them in action. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:14, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

At least Odysseus and Achilles are going to have a "solo" trailer (I guess), and Hades' champions have the coolest armor design so far, I've already seen some designs from Zeus and Poseidon champions, I am excited to see how the Ares's champions are going to look like. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 22:39, October 23, 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking forward to Odysseus' and Achilles' trailer, I can imagine it being something like them two jumping out of the Trojan Horse and straight into battle. And Hades' champions look miles better than the Poisidon champions and quite a bit better than the Zeus champions (I'm not a fan of the Poseidon armour at the moment), the Hades armour looks brutal which is always a good thing bin God of War. I think Ares' champions will look amazing, I hope they have armour that looks like Ares' armour in the first game. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:06, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

I hope that the Ascension crew are going to keep Ares as Steven Blum and Zeus as Corey Burton (I don't think Zeus is going to show himself in this game, anyways...), Steven's voice is just perfect to Ares. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 00:33, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

If they don't keep the same voice actors for Ares and Zeus, or if they do the same thing that they did with Athena I'm going to kick off. If the voice actors aren't available then they should at least get someone in who can do a good impression. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 06:58, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Steven and Corey fit so perfectly on their roles, taking them off is like make T.C. Carson stop voicing Kratos. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 17:47, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

There'd probably be an outcry from fans everywhere, I'd certainly be a bit miffed. By the way, sorry if I don't reply very often, the computer I usually log in from is not allowing me to edit or get into my account, I've sent an error report but I doubt anyone wil know the answer. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 15:38, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Do not worry about that, I'm not getting here really often too...but I'm making the best I can t reply as fast as I can Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:11, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

Urg, there's been some confusion with the computer I usualy use so I won't be able to edit much at all until the Wikia domain fixes the bug. I know this is a little random, but from the amount of e-mails I've been getting about the recent changes to the Wiki, there seems to be either a load of new editors or someone really eager has joined, I get an e-mail every couple of hours saying that something has been edited but I can't see who's done it as I can't log in. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 15:07, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

I'm back now with a fully working computer. I was just wondering if you've seen the Ares trailer? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:36, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did, but I notice that they changed Ares' hair, I hated that. At least his champions seem to have good moves.Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 21:43, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that as well. It looks really quite stupid and makes him look far less powerful and threatening than he did before. Also, I don't think it makes sense with the story as Ares has long hair when first helping Kratos so unless he changes his hair for his warriors it seems like a useless design change. At least, like you said, his warriors are skilled and pretty badass. I'm still waiting for Hades' trailer, I hope they don't change him much. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 08:03, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

I hope Hades and his champions will retain all the elements that make them worthy of bearing the responsability of represent the realm of the Underworld. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 23:55, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I hope so too. But I have a bad feeling that they'll try to do something with Hades' warriors, I'm not sure what but I think they'll make it so they can only get health by draining it or something like that, and while that may look good pn paper, it'd be very annoying for people if they had to fight everytime that were on low health (this is only an idea but I'm a bit worried that something similar will happen). Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 08:02, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Ascension Thoughts

Hey Shmeagle, I'm active in the wiki again! When we started talking, we were not even close to the release date of Ascension. Now that you probably already beaten the game, what are your thoughts? Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 02:35, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad you're active again, it was interesting talking to you last time. I had a stroke of bad luck when it came to the game, my PS3's a second hand 60GB launch model so it's very prone to problems; as soon as I got the game the PS3 got the yellow light of death and broke. It's not fixed yet but I'm borrowing a friend's PS3 to play Ascension so I'm only on one of the first levels. So far I think it's pretty good but in the opening level something felt off, I think it was the enemies mostly consisting of annoying bugs which weren't satisfying to kill. I haven't met any new interesting enemies (I won't count the Elephantuar as new as we've seen it a million times before) but that's to be expected as I'm not really anywhere in the game (just in the Village of Kirra). The only world weapon I like to use is the mace as it's very powerful. I'll confess that, for my first run through of any God of War game, that I play on easy mode so I can quickly skim through traps and I know what's coming for the harder difficulties. Other than that I can't really say much about the game. Have you seen a walkthrough? (I made this a seperate section so it's easier to get to). Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:24, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I've seen lot of them, last night exclusively to see the name of the moves and orb costs of the magic to add to the wiki (I did not find the name of the moves from Soul of Hades lvl. 5 still, sad.) along with their descriptions. But I loved the game! in my opinion, it could have ended in another way, and you acquire the magic too fast, like in GoW I, but Todd Papy and SM crew did a awesome work, hands down for them! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:51, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

I've had a look at some walkthroughs to see what's coming next in my game and it certainly looks impressive, the team has put a lot of effort into this instalment; I just find it disappointing that it's getting mediocre reviews just because it came after God of War III and was apparently less epic and the story didn't make sense. Personally, I don't think the reviewers were paying attention to the story as it's not overly complicated and it's unfair and illogical to compare a prequel to the last game in the series based of 'epicness'. If we base this off the IGN score of 7.8/10 then it seems to have gotten a lower score than what it deserves, first off (and like I've said before) comparing it to the sequel is ridiculous and that lost it a lot of marks, secondly, if they want to compare it to other games so badly, why aren't they as lenient to mistakes (made by plenty of other games) in Ascension. It all seems like they hold a bias towards the God of War series as a whole. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:04, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

They should compare Ascension with its sequel (Chains of Olympus), instead of comparing it with GoW III, it is just unfair. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:51, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Precisely. I just finished the game and I can honestly say I'm baffled with why it got such low scores, in my opinion it was better than God of War III. The Stautue of Apollo looked amazing and I thought it was actually better scaled than Cronos; when climbing up the ribs and looking at Delos bellow it made me feel slightly sick (in a good way) due to how high it looked. The only thing that annoyed me was some platforming sections that weren't well explained and I admittedly died a lot on them. I'll hopefully try and get the move set for the Soul of Hades on the Wiki page now that I've got it. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 22:29, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

That's awesome! I thought you would like the game, but the end is kinda ambiguous, so Kratos lost his memory for 3 whole weeks? Like, when he was on the harbor of Kirra and Orkos said about the blood tasks of the oath with Ares, Kratos interrupted him and said "the past is the past, Orkos!" like if he were aware about the killing of Lys and Calliope, but he just wanted to not be verbally reminded of it by Orkos, and than in the end the same memories suddenly start to haunt him? I'm confused. Anyways, thanks for your will to update the Soul of Hades page, I would ask you to put the name of the moves and their detailed descriptions in the pages of the elemental powers if it not bothers you...Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 06:58, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

No problem about the Soul of Hades page :), I'll try and find the name of the magic very soon and I'll add it. You're right about the certain parts of the story being confusing and perhaps contradicting; perhaps Kratos was only subconsciously aware of what he had done and his mind automatically buried it for him to prevent a mental breakdown, that may have been why he didn't want Orkos to mention it as his subconscious mind kicked in and made him shout as an automatic reaction. It did confuse me though how he seemed to realise that they were both dead but didn't understand that he had done it, what did he think had happened to them? Why did breaking his oath completely make the visions haunt him? He was already experiencing hallucinations (probably to do with the Furies) so why was it so different the second time? The story creates so many questions. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 09:03, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

I think your explanation is the one that reflects better what probably Todd and the SM crew thought. Another thing that kinda brought a big question mark in my head is the female statue in the other side of the portal in the lantern, Todd said is Nyx, but what is the relation? and obviously that is another dimension inside the lantern, because the interior have sevaral differences. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 23:12, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, you've got a point with that statue - it's never explained in the game. It would've been so much better to journey through a Silent Hill style otherworld down the statue after completing the Lantern of Apollo when you're running from the Furies, they could've thrown damaging projectiles at you while the Nyx world collapses around you. It really doesn't make sense to have it in the game if the game itself doesn't even acknowledge it. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 07:22, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

The only thing I can imagine is that Todd wanted to imply that Nyx is kind of a counterpart of Apollo, but that does not make much sense to me either. But well, Ascension never meant to be perfect, right? Every God of War game have its flaws, like:

God of War: You acquire the magic too fast in the storyline;

God of War II: Kratos seems too angry with everything and everyone;

God of War III: You have to kill the same boss that you fought in the previous game, and the quality of the storyline decreased (comparing with previous games in the main series);

Chains of Olymmpus: Some continuity errors in the storyline;

Ghost of Sparta: Kratos REALLY could not grow and simply kill Thanatos before the latter could kill Deimos?

But I can't help myself but to love them.

Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 16:29, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with you there; despite their faults, the God of War series still stands tall above most others. The only thing that I dislike about the entire series is that it has overdone some of Kratos' story and not touched on other parts that most people would like to know about - like his time as a general. I have to say that I recently replayed Ghost of Sparta not so long ago and I found parts of the game to be broken, mainly the enemies. The two that I have in mind are the Keres Wraiths and the Geryons (I don't think that's how it's spelt but oh well); the Keres Wraiths, for me on either of the harder difficulties, have an incredibly cheap grab attack that does tons of damage and can be started off screen (this makes it nearly impossible to dodge as you can't see it coming) and they have that attack where they stick their claws through the ground, this specific attack is fine on its own as it can be blocked but it becomes literally impossible to dodge if it is initiated just as you're coming out of the grab (this'll only happen if there are two in the room). The Geryons have that annoying teleport attack that is difficult to dodge, these aren't as bad as the wraiths in my opinion but they can be really annoying in small spaces. All of the games have difficult enemies but those enemies are very rarely as cheap as either of those two. God of War III, like you said, did have a weak story but I also realised that I didn't care for why Kratos wanted revenge. What did Zeus do again? Stab him in the stomach, obliterate the Spartans in Rhodes, and then destroy Sparta itself. I never really felt the urge to hate Zeus like I did the urge to kill Ares, Zeus seemed more like the 'good guy' in God of War II and was definetily the better one in God of War III. The revenge in both of those games felt empty (even though I loved God of War II) and I just didn't care about Kratos' quest, I felt nothing when Sparta was destroyed in God of War II as we hadn't seen Kratos' emotional connection with the city and so had to fill in the blanks which I could only fill with what I imagined to be Kratos as a very angry general. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:38, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Talking about the Wraiths in Ghost of Sparta, I have a simple way to kill them easily:

Hold L to block all the time. When you see that the Wraiths are not attacking, press square 3 times with the Thera's Bane activated, but DO NOT do a full combo, because if you do it, they will jump to the ground and execute the unblockable attack. After attacking them, hold L again to block until they stop attacking and repeat. Do this until the context minigame appears in their heads. It consumes time, but you only have to worry about the blocking time. About the Geryons, I don't have any strattegies, they are just broken, and the only thing that prevents me from beating VH mode...And Callisto, that gets like, 1000000000% harder to kill from Hard to Very Hard. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:38, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips on the Wraiths, I'll be sure to check them out. And yeah, the Geryons are just near impossible and I beat the one I've encountered by luck. Although it was a great game on easy and normal mode, Ghost of Sparta begins to show cracks on hard mode and then just seems broken on very hard mode. But thinking about modes, God of War: Ascension is really easy even on Titan mode - I remember getting bored and button mashing some enemies to see how quickly I would die (this was on very hard) and I barely got hurt, don't get me wrong, I got hit a lot, but I didn't get hurt past half way of my health. I should've been dead! Also, when the fight with both of the Furies (Megaera and Tisiphone) starts, there's a move where you get grabbed, swung around, and smashed down to the floor by Megaera - this should've killed me or at least taken 3/4 of my health away but it did next to no damage. It was practically the same damage that you would've got from an average grunt's sword swipe on normal mode God of War II. By the way, when you watched the walkthroughs, what difficulty did they play on? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:53, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

The person did not specified which difficulty he played, but he beaten the game in 3 hours, so it should be on normal I guess. I'm looking forward to buy a PS3 and doing so, I'll buy Ascension and then I'm sure it would be a pleasure to play multiplayer with you :) My PSN is birchmencolony, I'm not active at the time and do not know how anything works online, but feel free to add me if you want! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 20:03, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

I will gladly add you :) But I won't be able to until my PS3 gets up and running as I've forgotten my password for my PSN but it automatically logs me in on my PS3. I know you'll destroy me in multiplayer as the style I play the single player with will not work against a thinking person, oh well, it'll be free experience for you. I hope you enjoy the games when you get them, and although I stick by my opinion of God of War III not being the greatest in the series, it's certainly fun to play through. But I must warn you about the Skorpius as the fight is pretty broken, you'll understand when you get up to her on hard or very hard. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:04, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, I have no intentions of killing you :) maybe we can even team up sometimes! And thanks for the tip with Skorpius, he seems to be very broken, maybe trying to max out the Nemean Cestus will help in this part, I think it will be my main weapon instead of the others, because I'm not really crazy about the Claws of Hades, but otherwise, the Nemesis Whip seems to be a nice weapon to the way I play, quick attacks not that powerful, but that allow you to get a higher combo meter. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 20:45, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Teaming up sounds good :) Yeah, I'd definitely level up the Cestus to level three, although I best say the damage multipliers aren't good for the levels. If you ever get stuck on Zeus, you can glitch him out by spamming L1+O with the whips - it's so fast that he can't attack through it. I never used the claws, they didn't seem to move right... It's difficult to explain. I'll have to say that the Rage of Sparta is pretty bad, the Blade of Olympus is so difficult to control and doesn't even hurt that much; I'd say to only use it on big enemies that don't move much. The Cestus' magic isn't great - it doesn't seem to do any damage at all. Thinking about it, I think the God of War series needs more combos, not ones that you actually need to use, but ones that you could use if you wanted to be a bit fancy.

This is a bit (well, very) off topic but have you seen that Stheno's in the multiplayer mode of the Bog of the Forgotton? Me and another user have both agreed that it's a poor design choice and that she looks rather uninspired, but what do you think? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:02, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

It is completely random having Stheno there, like, Medusa's reign lasted only 10 years? I think that the guys in the creative departament had a lot of mythological options to develop the story of Ascension, they used what they thought it would fit, and then "reutilized" the remaining scrapped options in situations like this. I still think that they should had ake Kratos team up with Odysseus, Achilles or Orion, it would be just great in my opinion...Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 21:33, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, she was put there for no reason. It's like they just thought "Well, people asked for Stheno so we might as well just dump her in there." and so they spent five minutes enlarging the design of an original Gorgon queen and left it at that. And having Kratos team up with someone would have been a great design for a fight and would've allowed Kratos to show his 'nice' side; it would've been better than the fight with the re-skinned chimera (that was very unoriginal) and would've brought something new to the series, that is, learning to work with intelligent AI for a short amount of time in combat (I know they did this with Deimos but he wasn't particularly good for a partner). Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 15:54, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Infinite spear throw is not exactly a good move if you just can do 1 of them. And like, every attack Thanatos gives, Deimos is the first on to go to the ground, he should know better how to use the Arms of Sparta...Specially the shield. Getting out of the subject, I think that the place you live is like, 5 hours ahead of me in World time, that means that when we start teaming up in Ascension I'll have to wake up early hahahahaha Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:35, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, yeah, that's a point. We'll need to arrange a time... Where I am it's 18:39 (at the moment I'm typing this) but it is probably a lot earlier/later where you are. Hmmm, now wouldn't be a bad time for me but it could be awful for you, we'd need to work out a time zone to work at. The Wiki seems to work at Greenwich Mean Time so we could go at that to get a good time, any ideas? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:42, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

My time zone its 3 hours before Greenwich Meridian (São Paulo - Brasil, 15:49 now) but I dont think it's a life or death matter haha, are there in your country a lot of people that plays God of War? Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:49, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, yeah it's probably not that important. There's not actually that many people who play God of War that I know but if I look at sales then there's a few thousand people in my country, a lot of people haven't even heard of it even when they own a PS3 and it's a real shame. They refuse to try it (even if I offer to lend it to them for free) as they are too busy playing Call of Duty. Are there a lot of people you know who play God of War? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:58, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, actually is! God of War is one of the favorite games in Brazil, it's like a must-have for everyone that owns a PS2 or a PS3 here, and Kratos is idolized here in the same way he was in Sparta I guess hahaha Santa Monica even released the game in brazilian portuguese and they dubbed all voices with people from here (Something that really did any difference to me, I actually prefer it in english and T.C. Carson voice is unique, no one in any place could be a better fit than him to Kratos, same to Corey Burton - Zeus, Steve Blum - Ares and Linda Hunt as narrator) Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:06, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Happy Easter! hahaha Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 17:01, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, you too! :) Sorry I couldn't reply earlier, I got caught up with another piece of technology breaking (I have no idea what happens to them in my house to make them break but everything does) and had to search for a solution. It must be good having people who like God of War as well near you, gaming can be a really good way to bring people together and it gives you a way to talk to people about something you have in common. Does anyone you know who lives near you have Ascension? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:11, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yes! some friends already bought and beaten it, but the bad thing about having a lot of people that like the games is that almost no one is really concerned about the story, they play just because the game is "badass" and Kratos is awesome. Just 1 friend of mine really likes the whole story and like about talking about it, and he just played God of War 2 and watched the cutscenes of God of War I and III on Youtube, and even my father hahahaha he is a Greek mythology lover like me, and like to watch me playing haha :) Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:32, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, it's good your father likes Greek mythology as well. I get what you mean about nobody being concerned about the story, just have a look at a lot of YouTube comments on any God of War video - some people don't even know the story of Kratos and have just played the third game and like it due to the fact it's 'badass'. That's all well and good but it's a bit disheartening that some people don't even care about the story. By the way, have you had a go at Ascension on one of your friend's PS3? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 12:14, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Not until this moment...He is a very busy person, and he even said that he is sorry that he can't have any time to let me play the game, because he knows that I love the God of war franchise. But I still have God of War: Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta and II at home, so it's ok :) I have to find a way to kill the Geryons on Ghost of Sparta, I really want to get the remaining custome, and beat the Challenge of the Titans in God of War II, my dream is to have the Kratos godly custome, it's the most beautiful custome ever made to him!...Have you already beaten the Challenge of The Titans (or The Challenge of the Gods in God of War)? Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 16:53, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I actually managed to beat the Challenge of the Titans, it was the most infuriating thing I have done in my life; the God Armour is still very much worth the effort though, I'm with you in thinking it's the best costume for Kratos out there. I think the second and seventh challenge were born in the pits of Tartarus with the sole purpose of making people want to break their controllers, it took so long. I have to say though, I found some pretty good tactics that worked for me when sufferning through those challenges if you'd like to know some :) I'm not great at God of War (I neglect any of the combos I should use) and, from what I've gathered, you're very good at it so you should have no problem. Which one are you stuck on? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:03, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

I'm stuck in the third challenge, which i'm not allowed to beat without harming my dualshock, and I would like to hear your strategies :) Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 17:18, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Oh damn, I remember that challenge! I feel your stress with those bloody Gorgons. Luckily there is quite an 'easy' way to do it, it just requires patience and timing. You must be good at using the Golden Fleece to do it the way I did it (don't bother with Euryale's Head unless you're really stuck) and it'll help to be comfortable with I-frames in rolling (basically rolling at the right time so you don't get hurt even if it seems like the enemy is hitting you). First, get the Blade of Olympus or the Barbarian Hammer, the former has a long range laser attack so it's pretty useful at getting enemies even if they're far away. The Gorgon will appear first, try to grab her and she'll zip a few feet backwards and will always retaliate with a quick stone blast, parry this and every enemy that is in screen will be turned to stone, blast through them with the laser blast from the Blade of Olympus (I think it's L1+Δ) but spare the Gorgon. She'll eventually break out, when she does, immediately try and grab her again (ignore any other enemies unless they're a real threat at the time) and repeat the parrying process. When bigger enemies like Cyclopes come then role towards the Gorgon to grab her, if you're lucky then the I-frames will protect you from damage. Try not to jump towards the Gorgon as that leaves you vulnerable to a one hit kill petrification. I think there's a point where there's two Gorgons, if you're confident you can parry both of them but if not then just grab them, parry the stare, and smash the other one. I'll advise not to use Atlas Quake when the enemies are stones as it'll smash the Gorgon. I hope this helps, good luck :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:56, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I'm so dumb! Thanks for the tips, but I've already passed this one :( I'm in the one you must protect the translator :( that sucks. Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:29, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, no problem :) I actually found this challenge easy but I think I got lucky with a few glitches - some enemies just stopped moving and let me pass with the translator. Basically, use the Blade of Olympus (make sure it's fully upgraded) as it's quick and powerful. Use and abuse the Amulet of the Fates and everytime you can, slow time. The enemies will barely be able to attack when slowed and the Blade of Olympus will kill them very quickly. Don't move away from the translator when you can help it; if there's an enemy that you would need to move to hit then blast them with a laser beam from the blade and don't leave the translator unprotected. The cyclopses are too slow when time is slowed to cause any real problems, basically, just wail on them with the Blade of Olympus until they're dead - it barely takes any time. The satyrs are dangerous in normal speed but have pretty low health so can be dispatched of easily with a few powerful swings of the blade, or even Δ + Δ with the Barbarian Hammer as that attack deals so much damage (I think it might be the most powerful attack in the game). When the spot moves, freeze time and unleash Cronos Rage, the enemies won't be able to attack you through it and it'll give you plenty of time to move the translator. I hope this helps :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:38, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) I'll try this as soon as possible! I'm just doing it because I want the godly armor you know hahaha It's way more beautiful than any other costume in the series, well designed, amazing! I think it should be an available armor to the multiplayer, or even in God of War III, what a shame it isn't... Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 19:17, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Haha, that's why I spent all that time trying to beat challenge 7 (it's soooo difficult at first but I've found an easy way to do it), it's the best armour out of the series. I'd love it if they release the best armour from the series to Ascension in free DLC. That'll include the God Armour (easily the most famous) and maybe even the Athena costume as that was pretty cool (and very funny to hear Athena shout like Kratos). If I can remeber correctly, challenges five and six are both very easy but I can help with them later if you'd like (and if my help for challenge four works) :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:24, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

I'd be sooooooooooo grateful if you help me with the 7th challenge :) In Ghost of Sparta there is a challenge that you are killed with 1 shot from any enemy, and it took a long time to be beaten, but I had to learn how to block, evade and attack at the right time, so mentally exausting hahaha Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 20:16, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for taking ages to reply, I've been caught up with a ton of work. I'll try my best to help you with challenge seven :) First, kill the skeletons with the Blades of Athena - they're pretty easy but don't get caught up in a combo as their spinning attack covers a lot of distance and so can hit you even when you don't think they will be able to reach. After the skeletons are dead, go over to the pile of 'rocks' and it'll wake up to turn into a Titan Minotaur, Beast Lords will also spawn along with High Priests of the Fates. Let loose Cronos' Rage (the no magic bonus doesn't really add anything to your score) in the middle of them all and wail on the Minotaur with the Blade of Olympus, it should die quickly enough but you have to keep unleashing the rage every time it goes out as it stuns other enemies and damages them a lot. The High Priests will give blue orbs when they die so you shouldn't run out. It's a pretty simple tactic but it worked for me, I hope it works for you as well :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 08:44, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Really really thanks, Shmy! If I could I'd send a big easter egg to you! hahaha :) Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 12:13, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha, thanks ;) But I've probably eaten enough chocolate for now, I'll end up looking like Euryale if I'm not careful. By the way, did you manage to beat challenge 4? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 17:11, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I've already passed it, along with challenges 5 and 6, and I've got like, 2 "God" statuses and 4 "Titan", just Challenge 7 remains now, but I'm already mentally exausted now, I don't think I'm gonna beat it today, but I've beaten 3 challenges in one day, it's something :) Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 18:18, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

You're doing better than me already and I managed to get an overall Titan rank even with one of the challenges being ranked as 'mortal' :) I can understand why you're tired but you did really well to get that far in one day, challenge seven should be a doddle. Hopefully my advice pays off and you get the God Armour tomorrow :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 19:55, April 2, 2013 (UTC)  

And the Arena of the Fates ;) But the God Armor is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more important hahahaha AND I'm crazy about getting the Urn of Poseidon, I just love the Poseidon's Rage ability! Alexdonegan - The measure of a man is what he does with power. (talk) 21:40, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

(Sorry I've been gone for ages, I've been caught up with exams and the worst computer in the world) I hope you've got the armour, urn, and arena now and that my advice helped ;) Did challenge seven go ok? Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 08:09, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Shrine of Boreas

Shmeagle, I've just created a new page (Shrine of Boreas), but it was the first time I did this and I probably did some mistakes. Could you please check the page to correct them and put other things I didn't put? Uglyguy25 (talk) 22:04, December 6, 2012 (UTC)Uglyguy25

Yep, that'd be fine. I'll have a look now. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 22:22, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Link Charts

I'm trying to link the articles by what they are like weapons and magic and I am working on the godly possesion one right now thats why there are broken links. Gage key bearer (talk) 20:34, January 13, 2013 (UTC)Gage key bearerGage key bearer (talk) 20:34, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I would strongly suggest creating the pages and then linking the articles, just so there are no broken links at all; I can help if you'd like. I would also advise asking an admin if you wish to change the look of certain articles on the site quite drastically (the large amounts of categories at the bottom). I'll just add that I'm not against what you're doing, I just think it'd be better to do it when all of the pages exist (like Divine Reckoning). Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 20:40, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Then just take them out no problem so why delete the entire thing? The one with broken links I was in the middle of working on then you deleted it while I was working it. Gage key bearer (talk) 20:43, January 13, 2013 (UTC)Gage key bearerGage key bearer (talk) 20:43, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I deleted them simply because they have never been on the wiki before and may seem unneeded to others. Forgive me for perhaps sounding awkward but, I think it would be a better idea if you were to ask an admin or consult a group of members on the wiki just to make sure it's fine with everybody else; it probably will be, I think it's just best to confirm everyone's approval. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:08, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Every wiki has them and they make searching for articles much easier. Besides so long as the chart dosen't have the wrong articles on it there isn't a problem. Gage key bearer (talk) 21:12, January 13, 2013 (UTC)Gage key bearer

Although I am aware of the majority of Wikis having them, we never have. Personally, I think it'd be best to check with, like I've stated before, an admin - it'd prevent any unforeseen problems. I agree that the chance of anyone disagreeing is slim, but I still feel it'd be best to check. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:18, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

I asked an admin you happy all we need is an ok or a no. Gage key bearer (talk) 21:25, January 13, 2013 (UTC)Gage key bearer

Yes, I'm happy - thank you for asking. Like I have stated before, it will most likely be fine but it's always best to check. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 21:29, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Admin Request

Vandalism and incorrect edits can be undone without the need of admin rights. Useless pages can be tagged as such, so I can delete them. If you don't mind, I'd like to wait and see what happens first. I've been looking for a second admin for a while now, to help whenever needed, so your proposal is definitely a welcome one. KratosGodofWar (Radi0n) (talk) 16:05, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. You're most likely right to wait for a while (after the game comes out and maybe a bit after) before making any decisions. But if and when you make a decision, I'd be happy to help. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


Thank you for helping me with the edits Shmeagle DaemonTheDemon (talk) 15:23, February 3, 2013 (UTC)DaemonTheDemon.

Don't worry, I'm happy to help. Just say if you need anything doing or checking later on. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:49, February 3, 2013 (UTC)


I found some information about Empusa on wikipedia and other sites so you can finish your article on her, she is definitely from Greek Myth: Empusa, EmpusaConsus, the Erudite God (talk) 12:16, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the info, I'll be sure to add it to the page. Your help is very much appreciated. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 16:13, February 14, 2013 (UTC)

Walkthrough Page

Is there a particular reason you marked this page as a candidate for deletion? Just curious. - Wagnike2 (talk) 17:31, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Long ago, this Wiki used to have walkthroughs on boss pages and difficult environments but then the situation became too confusing and the Wiki transformed into more of a source of walkthroughs than of general information; the gods of the Wiki (or the admins) decided that it was time to end the reign of walkthroughs and decreed that the pages should only have information about the games. So it was decided that the place to get help for games should be sites dedicated to that purpose, such as GameFaqs, and not the God of War Wiki.

Sorry about that, I just began writing and it started turning into what you just read. Basically, or as far as I'm aware, the wiki used to have walkthroughs but they were removed due to the fact that they weren't detailed enough to be useful and to the fact that you could get them elsewhere. Also, they made the pages cluttered. If a walkthrough is going to be put on the wiki then it should be on a blog post. I hope this helps. Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 18:06, March 15, 2013 (UTC)

Just a little worried

Hi... I haven't seem you in the wiki since last month. I just think that's a little strange, since you're always doing everything around here. Is everything ok? Uglyguy25 (talk) 21:20, April 25, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I just left for ages, I did mean to tell you but I've been incredibly stressed and busy as I had a tonne of things on (final exams mainly) and then the computer that I use decided to freeze every time I used the Internet; it's working again now but it's still a pain as some pages don't load properly or it just crashes if there's too much information. Anyway, I'm sorry I couldn't get in touch more quickly but I should be back for good now :) Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 08:03, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

It's ok. You didn't have how to tell me anyway. I just thought that it was too weird for not seeing you doing anything here for about three months. I mean, I didn't actually count the time, but since I'm used to seeing your name everywhere, I was even getting worried. Well, I shouldn't have bothered anyway. I know how a lot of exams can be stressing, with your parents always putting pressure on you to get good grades and you never have time to study all you need, or you don't know what you need to study... Good luck with the exams and the other things, friend Uglyguy25 (talk) 18:27, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

"Hi again" reply

I'm fine, thanks for asking. I've been away from my computer for a long time, too (Ascension's fault). But now I guess things are going to get a little better here. I've been playing, listening to music (Capital Inicial, one of the best Brazilian rock bands ever), going downtown in my vacation. I feel good when I do this, because at least this part of Rio de Janeiro is beaultiful.

I've been missing you. With all that's been happenning in my life, I was missing someone to have a nice talk about mythology. I got the "new" books of Percy Jackson, The Heroes of Olympus, and I've been enjoying them a lot, too. I just can't get mythology out of my life. Or my life out of mythology...

But with everything that's been happenning in Ascension, I guess I won't stop playing it for a long time now. I've just got - and tested - all the gauntlets of the game. Awesome. I always thought the Nemean Cestus would be a perfect Multiplayer weapon for their attack style. It was just like my thoughts had gotten into the game.

If you want to keep talking to me, you can reply in my talk page whenever you want. I don't want to get yours even bigger. I just wrote this in here for you to see immeadiatly. Uglyguy25 (talk) 21:47, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

I've been missing someone to talk about mythology with as well, it seems like everyone in my area dislikes it which is a shame. I was actually reading some of the newer Percy Jackson books again and, although I enjoyed them, they seemed to bend mythology a bit too much in some places and didn't concentrate on it enough in others, but I suppose that's just nitpicking as I'm reading it again. I've been player Ascension quite a bit too, would you want to add me so we can have a game (my account has changed but the new one's on my user page)? It would be really fun to slay some monsters with you in the gauntlet matches. By the way, what is your favourite weapon to use in ascension besides the Ceastus? I quite like spears myself as they help my teammates and I've found a few exploits that can be used; I've haven't downloaded the newest update yet so I've never tree the gauntlets, maybe I'll like them better than spears.

This is kind of random but I found a really good app (if you have an iPod or android phone or something) that you may like, it's called Pantheon The Legends and it's basically a card game based on Greek Mythology, luckily the devs do their research and there are loads of different gods, Titans, and monsters that aren't usually seen in card games (most Greek mythology game just say "Ok, we've got Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, and a few other gods and that's all we need" but Pantheon has quite a few different characters, such as Cottus or Oceanus or even Euryale). It's free and it has a chat feature that we could use as that might make it easier to communicate.

This is kind of random but I've actually started liking some other bands (mainly Iron Maiden) and I quite like rock so I might give Capital Inicial a listen. By the way, did you watch the newest Percy Jackson movie? I haven't yet but I heard that it was quite good (or at least better than the first). Shmeagle Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 10:20, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

I have a different favorite weapon for each allegiance. For Poseidon, I like the Spear, just because of that attack in which you spin the spear and throw it in front of you. For Ares, I really like the Lance and both hammers for being so strong and having well ranged attacks. For Zeus, I undoubtly prefer the Blade (that thing that launches tidal waves of lightning with each attack when you press L1+Triangle) and the War Hammer. For Hades, I like the War Hammer, because it steals health and is strong, and the Lance, too, which is very appelative.

The Gauntlets are really a new experience. Their attack range is bad, but if you hit something with it, it will fly away easily. The Triangle attacks are slow, but their range make them good. I have a hint: try to hold Square when performing the Square combos. For example Square, Square, Hold Square: you perform a double gauntlet dash in the final attack. I'll really use gauntlets for a long time, but just for curiosity. I guess I'll go back to hammers and swords after some time. Another thing: try to train with the gauntlets in Olympus (Training) and use their normal and special attacks against that trainer. It's just good if you want to know these weapons better. And don't forget to use the Nemean Cestus against Hercules. It was the first thing I did when I acquired them...

I don't use my cell phone for about anything, and my internet with it is really slow. Sorry, I don't think the card game would work here... About Iron Maiden, I know a little of it. The Trooper, Fear of the Dark (perfect song for Hades), Aces High. I feel like a poser for knowing so little, but I like these songs I already know. But Capital Inicial is very different from it. I don't think it actually makes your style, but they are one of the best Brazilian rock bands ever for sure (and not only because nowadays Brazilian music is a crap). And of course, the songs are in Brazilian Portuguese, so you wouldn't understand a thing, although most of the lyrics are really beaultiful and intelligent. But if you prefer Iron Maiden, for example, I don't think you would actually like Capital Inicial's style.

I've been answering your comments in my page. I don't want to put more stuff in your talk page because I know you use it for more important things, so when you want to reply, just write there, and then check to see if I answered. I'll see if there are new messages every day. Uglyguy25 (talk) 23:40, August 19, 2013 (UTC)


Hey there, I was wondering if you would help me in some cleanup on articles around here --Fragment -Animus- 02:23, August 28, 2013 (UTC)

Me, again

I've just written my first blog post (just because I didn't know where else I should write that) and I thought a lot of things about Deimos and Ares. If you have time, could you go to my page and discuss that with me? I need a different perspective from that. Uglyguy25 (talk) 18:43, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Gods at War: Egyptian Bloodlines


Not sure if you recall but I am the author of God of War: Egyptian Bloodlines.  You read the first six chapters over a year ago and were waiting to discover what Sony had to say.  Well, sadly they, without reading anything, said no.  The issue is that they have a desire to further the series and they cannot read mine and accedentally use something they read.  So when I received the "no" from them I went through the entire book and scrubbed it from beginning to end of Sony specific things.  This process took about six months and I had to add a few chapters to ensure the book stay true to itself but gained more of a novel aspect.

I was wondering, since you liked the first six chapters as they were before, if you would like to read the rest of teh first book.  I would begin again, though that sounds weird, because there have been so many changes it is truly a different tale.  If you would like a pdf of the book just let me know and I can email it to you.  The new version is about 650 pages contained within 32 chapters.  It is book one of a seven book series and I have written the second book already.  I am about 430 pages into the third book.  Oh and I also had to rename the series to stray away from being sued by Sony.  It is now:  Gods at War instead of God of War.

Have a great day.

Joseph Graber

Sorry for not replying (I forgot the password and then couldn't access my emails, eventually forgetting about the wiki), and this may be too late for you to notice, but if you do see this then I would be happy to read the rest of your book :) It's a shame that Sony wouldn't let you use God of War, but at least it has its own identity now.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a good exuse 10:26, July 30, 2014 (UTC)


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